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I did so not out of habit or routine.
It was on the family TV for some reason, and I started watching. _________________ My old sig was too long.
Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:51 am
dougisfunny
Joined: Oct 29, 2002
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my brother has d/led approx 2400 songs.... _________________ The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:54 pm
counterparadox
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
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Shinobo wrote:
TylerL wrote:
...then I watch MTV Cribs.
I can no longer speak to you. Ever. You have committed a grave sin, and the only way to atone for such an act is self immolation.
MTV Cribs actually ain't that bad. Although, MTV's best show (which isn't hard) is Made. I love that show. _________________ anime is teh s uck
Play City of Heroes/Villians? Look me up, Pinnacle server, @C Paradox
Fri Jul 04, 2003 9:09 pm
Cooolcorey
Joined: Nov 08, 2002
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I watched Punkd once and I liked that show. I watch cribs sometimes though, but I don't watch MTV all that much to begin with. I prefer TechTV.
Fri Jul 04, 2003 10:21 pm
AdmiralGreer
Joined: Nov 08, 2002
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Must we discuss MTV(Moron TV) here?
Since I don't share any of my 900 or so MP3s, I'm not worried about the RIAA. What I am more concerned about is the MPAA launching a similar crackdown. _________________ Ice cream has this erotic sense to it- kinda like the one choclate and strawberries have.
-Me
Sat Jul 05, 2003 12:05 pm
AnimePrime
Joined: Nov 08, 2002
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What about the people that record music off of the radio and then give it to there friends? Or what about the people that loan their CD's or tapes to friend? The reason the RIAA doesn't bicth about that is because it is accepted as part of the teritory. I think what we need to do is when they sue the first person and it gets on the news people boycot buying cds for a month until they quite trying to sue inocent people.
"VIVA LA KAZA!!!
Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:46 am
TylerL
Joined: Oct 10, 2002
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Nowadays, if I don't find a song on the iTunes Music Store, I download it from KaZaA and whathaveyou.
I give the music companies a chance to let me legitimately buy their music online.
Foo Fighters refuses to have their music sold online song-by-song, so if I just want to get "This is a Call", I have to download it from KaZaA. _________________ My old sig was too long.
Mon Jul 07, 2003 2:39 pm
John_Bono_Smithy_Satchmo
Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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I will admit that I have over 4 gigs of Mp3s, probably 3 of it ill-gottten. But I ask the question: does this hurt the music industry? From what I can tell, my music purchaces have only increased since I started downloading them. As Orson Scott Card recently pointed out: when the radio came out, the music industry freaked, until they realized thier sales were up hundreds of percent. While Kazaa isn't that profound, it's the same effect. They should eventually realize this and give up. As for prosecuting, they'll have to prove losses first. That, and most of the music I have is not from a major record label. Also, as Card pointed out, lobrary's don't discourage book sales, but increase them. before book stores made him stop, he posted every one of his novels online, dramatically increasing his book sales. While music isn't books (you can take a CD with burned mp3s anywhere, but you can't take a book everywhere, most consumers arre rather conscious and will buy the real thing, simply to support the artist. Look at Megatokyo and Nuklearpower. _________________ This space left intentionally blank.
Mon Jul 07, 2003 5:49 pm
Beatdiggga
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
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I have a rather large MP3 collection, between myself and my brother. All of them, with one or two exceptions, came from Kazza. But what the recording industry needs to do is look long and hard at why people are willing to steal from them. God knows if they sued every single file swapper, the court battles could last decades. Maybe more.
Tyler inadvertaintly does have a point. Cheap, relaibelble pay services like iTunes can compete with criminals if they have the music. But if artists hold out, they'll only be shooting themselves.
So in the end, the RIAA is full of hot air (yet again). _________________ Sometimes I miss my sanity- Wedge Antilles
Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:40 pm
John_Bono_Smithy_Satchmo
Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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Scratch that--I checked. Less than half of my MP3 space is copyrighted without me having a legal copy. _________________ This space left intentionally blank.
Wed Jul 09, 2003 1:48 pm
Beatdiggga
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
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Time for another chat.
As a side affect of these new lawsuits, the RIAA is facing what buisness people like to call "The Hydra effect". In essence, it began back in 2000. Once the large head of Napster was cut off, two more took it's place, in the form of Morpheus, and LimeWire. Then Kazza, and Grokster. Now the new wave of hack-resistant programs are among us. How do you kill the hydra when the legal sword is useless? Find another weapon. _________________ Sometimes I miss my sanity- Wedge Antilles
Sat Jul 19, 2003 11:36 am
AnimePrime
Joined: Nov 08, 2002
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Or use a torch to sear the heads before they grow. That torch will probably be a new law pushed by lobyists to make it a federal crime to download music. Of course we can always say we weren't warned. CD's don't have an F.B.I warning on the cases like they do on video tapes.
Sat Jul 19, 2003 3:58 pm
Nobuyuki
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
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Well, here we go...
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Music Industry Wins Approval of Subpoenas
Fri Jul 18, 6:48 PM ET
By TED BRIDIS, AP Technology Writer
WASHINGTON - The music industry has issued at least 871 federal subpoenas against computer users this month suspected of illegally sharing music files on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day, U.S. court officials said Friday.
The effort represents early steps in the music industry's contentious plan to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online piracy.
Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling some of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications Inc. and Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some universities to provide names and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by nicknames such as "fox3j," "soccerdog33," "clover77" or "indepunk74."
The Recording Industry Association of America has said it expects to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking financial damages within the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but the RIAA has said it would be open to settlement proposals from defendants.
The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings requiring Internet providers to readily identify subscribers suspected of illegally sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act permits music companies to force Internet providers to turn over the names of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any U.S. District Court clerk's office, without a judge's signature required.
In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs as "representative recordings" of music files available for downloading from these users. The trade group for the largest music labels, the Washington-based RIAA, previously indicated its lawyers would target Internet users who offer substantial collections of MP3 song files but declined to say how many songs might qualify for a lawsuit.
"We would have to look at historic trends, but that is a very high number," said Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy and Technology, a civil liberties group that has argued against the subpoenas. "It doesn't sound like they're just going after a few big fish."
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