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CollegeBum

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Last week on DB Goku deffeted the Red Ribbion Army, which I think ended the RR Series.
Now in DBZ they said that Goku let Dr Gerho(sp?) excape and later on he created the androids.
Maybe this is something I missed or Im just jumping the gun here. Why didnt we see Dr Gerho in the DB series? It wasnt Gerho's RR Army like they said in DBZ, but Comander Red's.
So would anyone like to try and fill me in here?
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PostMon Nov 18, 2002 9:48 am
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The black guy is Dr. Gero. He appointed himself leader.

When Goku destroys the Red Ribbon Army he thinks he has destroyed Dr Gero along with it.
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THat cant be!!!! ...Dr Gero is white not black. YOu cant say that when he made him self into an androide that he became white. Remember Bulma saying when she saw him for the first time that she reconized him from an magazine Question
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....no


The Black guys name was Assistant Black and had nothing to with the andriods. Gero originaly wasn't created until Akira started writing the Cell saga. In DB a guy named Dr. Frappe supposedly made the andriods and I think only appeared in the manga.
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Actually, the black guy was Officer Black, and he was killed when his robotic thingy blew up. In reality, Akira Toriyama hadn't created Dr. Gero at that point in the story. But when Toriyama tried to end the Dragonball series at the finale of the Frieza Saga, his fans basically demanded that he keep going. So, in order to supply his fans' needs, he decided to say that the Red Ribbon army hadn't been destroyed those many years ago, and that somebody had escaped. That somebody was supposed to have been one of the chief scientists that had cooperated with Commander Red and had created most of the high-tech weaponry and vehicles for the RR (except for Android #8, who was apparently created by some other guy named Dr. Frappe; Major Metallic/Metallotron could possibly be one of his creations, but some others think that he was created by General White in Muscle Tower). In reality, Dr. Gero hadn't really existed at that point in Dragonball since the Cell Saga had still been years off, so he was effectively "added in" later as a plot device to bring back the Androids. The idea that there had been a secret, shadowy puppet master behind the Red Ribbon Army had only been created in order for the whole Android/Cell Saga to take place years after the original Android/Red Ribbon plot had already been resolved.

So there you have it. A character created in hindsight, lots of plotholes as a result, and some missing androids (what ever happened to Androids #1-7 and 9-12? Hey you FanFic authors, I think you've got some potential storylines here...)

On another Red Ribbon related note, does anyone else remember the short appearance of Mercenary Tao (Tao Pai Pai) in the Cell Saga? He was in a short in-between episode that was placed sometime just after Gohan had finally achieved Super Saiyan 1 in the Time Chamber and just before Cell started up the Cell Games. He had an artificial arm and a metal mask, I believe as a result of accidentally blowing himself up with that grenade in his last fight with Goku at Korin Tower. Also, if you catch the early post-Cell and pre-Buu episodes, the guys making the "Great Saiya-Man" movie look suspiciously like Commander Red (the Director) and Officer Black (the Assistant Director), plus some other characters seen in the early Dragonball episodes. Ah, Toriyama, you tricky fellow...
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i thik that there are so many cameos or pseudo-cameos in DBZ that it'd be almost impossible to find them all.

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I knew about the tao pai pai thing. It was that episode where gohan goes to that town and meets that girl who you can tell he likes, but she doesn't know how strong he is.Then there was this other guy who built this shelter and hired tao to save them from cell/any robbers. Gohan destroys the shelter in the end of the episode.
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Yeah, that's sorta what I said Johnny...but you did explain it better.
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Booya! Cool
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NO! No plot holes!

Goku DEFEATED the RR Army, but he didn't KILL every single member. A lot escaped with their lives. Goku isn't ruthless. Not nearly.

There was sonething else I wanted to say, but I forget what it was.
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There was sonething else I wanted to say, but I forget what it was.


I think it was "Booya" God I love that word.
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Yeah, same here. I don't think there's another word besides "DAMNIT" that I use more in TFC games. Razz
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okay let's try this
boo....booy...Booya!
hey, i kinda like that!

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I also alternate between "nootch", "snoogins", "snootchy bootchies", and "boom-chicka"
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hmm.. good selelction of words, I also use boom-chika, but not nearly as much as booya.
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