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No but its a moral problem if I as a non-teenager does. What I meant was is it illegal for a 13 year old to see a naked picture of a 13 year old if it was made by another person of the same age?
But thats really outside the scope of this thread
Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:23 pm
dougisfunny
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how can anything be outside the scope of a thread?
Thu Feb 05, 2004 2:37 am
Rycel
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touché... _________________ Rycel's Death Count on this board: 7
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Thu Feb 05, 2004 2:48 am
Nanami_Maxwell
Joined: Feb 06, 2004
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hmmmmmmmmmm
Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:35 pm
Fodder
Joined: Apr 02, 2003
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The point of this thread was to define hentai. If you change the thread into a discussion of morality it becomes outside the boundries. Some forums are really anal about keeping on topic. As far as i have seen this isnt one of them.
So game on. Lets continue where i left off.
Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:00 pm
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Where did you leave off? _________________ You're An Inu (Dog)!
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Thu Feb 12, 2004 4:11 pm
Fodder
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Oh heck i forget. I think its time for me to go into the corner and just start to rock and back and forth
Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:24 pm
JohnnyPsycho
Joined: Nov 14, 2002
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I think another point needs to be made, since we've seemed to wander into the age old "How Old is Adult?" discussion yet again...
Firstly, here's Japan's "Age of Consent" laws, in short...
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Law for Punishing Acts Related to Child Prostitution and Child Pornography, and for Protecting Children.
This is a temporary translated version of the New Law adopted by the Japanese Diet, in April 1999 related to
Child Prostitution, Child Pornography and Sexual Abuse of Children committed by Japanese nationals abroad.
Article 1 - Objective
The objective of this Law is to protect the rights of children by prescribing punishment for acts
related to child prostitution and child pornography, and by establishing measures including the
giving of appropriate protection to children who have suffered physically and/or mentally from the
said acts, in light of the fact that sexual exploitation and sexual abuse of children seriously infringe
I. Ages for legal purposes
Article 2 - Definitions
For the purpose of this Law, a "child" means a person under the age of 18 years.
Age of majority
The Article 3 of the Japanese Civil Code states that the age of majority is twenty (20) years old.
Age of consent for sexual activity
The Article 177 of the Penal Code puts the age of consent for sexual actitvity at thirteen (13) years.
Age of consent for marriage
Articles 731 and 737 of the Civil Code provides that the age of consent for marriage is eighteen (18)
years for men, and sixteen (16) for women.
But when a minor wants to get married, he or she needs the consent of his or her parents.
as you can see, over in Japan any sexualized image of Rei Ayanami would be considered perfectly kosher, because her character is aged 15 years and the age of consent for sex according to Japan's Constituition is 13. She couldn't get married yet unless her parents (Gendo?) give their consent. This also explains for anyone who's ever seen the show GTO: Great Teacher Onizuka why a 22 year old man would be "allowed" to lust after his highschool students, and why his fantasy about being 40 years old and having a 16 year old wife isn't that strange... Well, it is kinda strange in even these modern times, but not illegal, at least not in Japan. Then again, age of consent laws tend to vary according to which prefecture or town you happen to be in, so in some places the age of consent is really more like 16 or 18.
And, as you may no doubt be aware, there has been a long-going controversy and debate about the appropriateness of such materials that depict "underage" women (in U.S. standards) in sexual situations being brought over here, because they're perfectly legal in their own countries. Really, 18 is a very arbitrary number, but it's taken with such severe seriousness over here that the latest trends in the American porn industry is of "Barely Legal" girls, or girls who have just reached that "magic number". What's creepier still is that most of these "Barely Legal" movies and magazines portray young just-out-of-highschool or college age girls in cheerleading outfits, pigtails, Catholic school uniforms, etc., portraying them to be perhaps younger than they really are, as if fulfilling men's fantasies to have sex with underage teens by having of-age teens roleplay. One may argue that our Age of Consent laws have actually caused an increase in a fetishizing of young girls. Older men lust after younger women, it's just the way things are, and by making it taboo it has caused that lust to become that much stronger.
Personally, I don't think there's a problem with a 15 year old guy digging on a nude image of Rei Ayanami or any other "underage" character. Actually, I had something rather like that happen to me when I was younger... when I was around 15 or 16, i happened upon some old copies of some porn from the 80's, most of it starring the infamous Tracy Lords. Now, at the time, I didn't think anything of it because I really didn't know who Tracy Lords was, I just knew that she had fast become my favorite porn starlet. It wasn't until I went away to college a few years later that I finally stumbled upon the truth of those videos: Tracy Lords was underage during the making of those films (she had lied about her age for years, and was really around 15 or 16 when she started out in the porn biz). Now, of course, it kinda creeped me out at first to realize that I had watched some illegal porn years ago, but then it dawned on me that I hadn't been of age at that point either. In fact, the more I thought about it, the more it made sense why, at the time that i was 16 years old, I thought that the movies made by a then 16 or 17 year old Tracy Lords were so appealing. Mind you, I haven't seen those movies since then, nor do I really want to risk getting the cops on my ass trying to find copies to this day.
I guess, in the end, my opinion is that people will lust after whatever the hell they want, and that a magic arbitrary number isn't necessarily going to change that. It's a crime when adults take advantage of and sexually abuse children, there's no doubt about that, but as to what is consent and when someone can be clearly defined as an adult, well, those are debates that will never end. _________________ "The principles you live by create the world you live in; if you change the principles you live by, you will change your world." -Blaine Lee
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Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:46 pm
Andromaton
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the age of consent in america ranges from 13-18 depending on the state you live in. But because of the whole minor until 18 federal law parents can still charge statitory rape even if it was 100% consentual.
So basicly if you had been dating a girl who was 6 months younger than you for 2 years and when you turn 18 she decides she wants to give it up to you for your birthday her parents could charge you with rape just on account of her being 6 months under 18.
Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:06 pm
John_Bono_Smithy_Satchmo
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Chances are that you won't get convicted--you know, when the girlfriend honestly tells the judge that it was consentual. I would hope a guy gets along with his girlfriend's parents. _________________ This space left intentionally blank.
Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:09 pm
Chibi_Zero
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the age of consent in america ranges from 13-18 depending on the state you live in. But because of the whole minor until 18 federal law parents can still charge statitory rape even if it was 100% consentual.
So basicly if you had been dating a girl who was 6 months younger than you for 2 years and when you turn 18 she decides she wants to give it up to you for your birthday her parents could charge you with rape just on account of her being 6 months under 18.
That really would depend on what state you live in. New York they really couldn't do anything since the age of consent is 17, It is still possible for him to be charged with statitory rape... Then again the court might overlook that 6 month age difference.... _________________ "I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept." - Calvin
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Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:22 pm
Andromaton
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the point I was making was that just because they say its legal doesn't mean you can't be charged with it anyway. And because they are a minor they have no say in the matter. If the judge decided to ignore the minor and listen to the parents then it would go on just as if she had been 12.
Wed Feb 18, 2004 2:30 am
Andromaton
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the curse of the mummy is back! OH NO!
Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:41 am
Ixidor
Joined: Jul 07, 2003
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The age of consent laws can put many teens my age in trouble, When one thinks about it, why are the age of consent laws really their? Granted they set up a legal age for such things, but if you think about, when children 12+ are exposed to things they see on TV and such. Then you would say it is the parnets responsibilty to filter out such things, this just isnt enogugh nowadays. </end rant>
If I where to ask any of my friends and such what the legal age of consent is in NV, i would get mostly weird looks and wrong answers.
This above proves that the same children this law is supposed to protect, is not stopping them from doing such things.
Now this is the main point that I want to get to, The parents of either party, Lets veiw this senerio, Jack and Jill love each other they have been dating for a few months, eventully they have sex, they used protection and the works, Jills parents find out and decide to bust him on the rape charge, the judge sides with the parents and jack gets set to whereever for 2 years, Jacks life as a hopeful buisness man is now over.. Why because 2 people where in love
The laws are put to protect children from other adults, not children from children. They need to revise these laws to this standard so Bastard parents that hate Jack cant destroy his life with a simple trial over love. _________________ -Ixidor
Wed Feb 18, 2004 8:35 pm
Force-Attuned_Krogoth
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Umm, I don't know what the laws are like where you live, Ix, but in your hometown, it's not statutory rape if both Jack and Jill are both under (or both over, for that matter) 18. It only applies when one is over and one under. _________________ Krogoth uses Berserk.
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