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Echii is harder to define becuase it's a middle term. You have to take on a case by case basis, and even then you will find people that disagree. The best way I've found to clasify Echii is this: A show that relies heavily on the use of panty shots, zero-gravity breasts, and of course a hot spring episode at least once a season. Some series seem to have nothing to offer but echii while others only contain elements of echiiness.
I also want to change my previous statement a little. After remembering about titles like Kite and that those can also be classified as hentai. Still, titles like those are few and far between. Think of it this way, if you watch a movie on IFC and two people are having sex you dont immediatly say OMG PORN! There is line between artistic and a pornographic however thin or blurry it may appear. _________________ Bang.
Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:38 pm
Irkan_Warrior
Joined: Jul 10, 2003
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Ecchi is anything to do with underwear; updkirt shots, peeking, hot springs, etc. Nudity that has nothing to do with sex can also be called ecchi
However, large amounts of graphic nudity and sex; hentai _________________ The only truth that realy exists is the truth within the mind of the individual and the way the individual sees the world...
Sat Jan 31, 2004 12:39 pm
Ixidor
Joined: Jul 07, 2003
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Irkan_Warrior wrote:
Ecchi is anything to do with underwear; updkirt shots, peeking, hot springs, etc. Nudity that has nothing to do with sex can also be called ecchi
However, large amounts of graphic nudity and sex; hentai
I disagree on your definition of Ecchi, Granted it has most of those qualites, but if you look at the bigger picture. Ecchi can be considered as anything that brings that "attention" to the targeted gender of the scene or referance. So even just a frontal shot of a charater in sexy, but not revealing, clothes can be considered Ecchi. _________________ -Ixidor
Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:46 pm
Kalma
Joined: Nov 03, 2003
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I'd ask if something is hentai or ecchi, but I cant show you because that would break the rules.
It is funny that I found it a few days ago by accident and then saw it in a store today, it is a statue. It is suggestive. It is nudity. It is Rei Ayanami.
I found it while doing a Google image search for "Rei Ayanami" to show someone on a forum what she looked like. No I did not use that pic.
I wonder if anyone will find it and comment. _________________ You're An Inu (Dog)!
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 9:25 pm
Fodder
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If its Eva's Rei then it goes into something that I dont think any of us adults want to touch. Which is that the Eva characters were all underage. Now the exception to this is that most of the readers of this forum are the right age for that. So hey to each their own.
Rycel,
Your right about what your saying. A movie that has sexual overtones or even a sex scene doesnt not make it a porn. Heck if you really want to muddy the waters remember their is an inbetween rating, never used anymore, called NC-17. Which makes things really hard to define. An anime, in this case La Blue Girl, that refers to air dildos, sexcraft, ninjas using said craft. And the fact that most of the time the characters are naked. Well hell id call that a porn. Take a porn wrap it around a period time story and give it a heavy plotline. And theirs your NC-17 title. We're all right in what we are saying. It seems to have struck a nerve and im sure im not the only one that it has helped out.
BTW driving while listening to that anime is a distraction and not healthy. Its a great way to have an accident. That the employee with me chose to do that was really stupid on his part. And just didn't help our job in any way. PLus it was just in bad taste.
Sun Feb 01, 2004 12:13 am
Irkan_Warrior
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Personally, I wouldn't mind it that much. Especially if I wasn't driving and could pay complete attention to it. _________________ The only truth that realy exists is the truth within the mind of the individual and the way the individual sees the world...
Sun Feb 01, 2004 6:48 pm
Fodder
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Trying to think of how i want to say this. Its uncomfortable when your in a car with another guy watching it. Understand? Its just f'in weird
Sun Feb 01, 2004 10:06 pm
Kalma
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I saw an episode once, it was wierd. A chick getting rammed by a demon with a thing that by obvious comparison is WAY too large and about the size of her torso long and around. Odd. I could buy it on DVD at Newbury Comics if I was 18. Haha. Odd.
I think that it is not wierd that the statue is the NGE Rei. She is atractive.
Did you all find it OK? Any trouble?
Is NC-17 like X? _________________ You're An Inu (Dog)!
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Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:48 am
Fodder
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NC-17 is between R and X. Its supposed to mean basically an X title with a heavy plot.
Hey Nobu whats the official answer to that.
Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:01 am
FinalDivineDragoon
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Kalma, listen to me. Rei is under 18. Underage pornography is wrong and illegal in many areas. In fact you should be arrested for trying to make us look at underage porn so stop asking. _________________ There is limited intelligence in the galaxy, but the stupidity of the universe is infinite.
Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:36 am
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ah, but Rei is not a real person. And as far as US law goes, the Supreme Court has not not decided whether artificial renderings(CG, anime, etc) of underage porn involving fictional characters qualifies as kiddy-porn or not.
NC-17 has still been occasionally used, and not necessarily for porn-esque tendencies. Last of the Mohicans(sp?), anyone? Although anyone who has seen an NC-17 title on IFC(hey, i was channel surfing) knows that NC-17 can also just be rated porn. Because generally, real porn doesn't bother submitting movies to the government, they just call it "X"
and leave it at that. Come to think of it, I don't think any movie has been officially rated X for over 10 years. And movies that were would easily be R nowadays. Any titles recently that would deserve an NC-17 rating that are submitted are censored till they are R material. Simply cuz NC-17 movies don't get good turnout.
And no one has brought up the point of true porn(hentai) being simply wrong to start out with. Maybe I'm weird, but to my knowledge it is immoral to get horny over porn. But my feeling seems strongly in the minority, so I'll just stop now.
Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:55 am
dougisfunny
Joined: Oct 29, 2002
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hornyness isn't something that morals really figure into, its a physical instinctive response to an outward input. If you see it, and associate it with nudity and sex, which it is... why shouldn't you get horny?
Also... its like looking through a viefinder, or around the camera...
By early fall, I was ready. My colleagues in the National Association of Theatre Owners joined with me in affirming our objective of creating a new and, at the time, revolutionary approach to how we would fulfill our obligation to the parents of America.
My first move was to abolish the old and decaying Hays Production Code. I did that immediately. Then on November 1, 1968, we announced the birth of the new voluntary film rating system of the motion picture industry, with three organizations, NATO, MPAA, and IFIDA, as its monitoring and guiding groups.
The initial design called for four rating categories:
G for General Audiences, all ages admitted;
M for mature audiences - parental guidance suggested, but all ages admitted;
R for Restricted, children under 16 would not be admitted without an accompanying parent or adult guardian; (later raised to under 17 years of age, (and varies in some jurisdictions));
X for no one under 17 admitted.
The rating system trademarked all the category symbols, except the X. Under the plan, anyone not submitting his or her film for rating could self apply the X or any other symbol or description, except those trademarked by the rating program.
Our original plan had been to use only three rating categories, ending with R. It was my view that parents ought to be able to accompany their children to any movie the parents choose, without the movie industry or the government or self-appointed groups interfering with their rights. But NATO urged the creation of an adults only category, fearful of possible legal redress under state or local law. I acquiesced in NATO's reasoning and the four category system, including the X rating, was installed.
So, the emergence of the voluntary rating system filled the vacuum provided by my dismantling of the Hays Production Code. The movie industry would no longer "approve or disapprove" the content of a film, but we would now see our primary task as giving advance cautionary warnings to parents so that parents could make the decision about the moviegoing of their young children.
CHANGES IN THE RATING SYSTEM
We found early on that the M category (M meaning "Mature") was regarded by most parents as a sterner rating than the R category. To remedy this misconception, we changed the name from M to GP (meaning General audiences, Parental guidance suggested). A year later we revised the name to its current label, "PG: Parental Guidance Suggested."
On July 1, 1984, we made another adjustment. We split the PG category into two groupings, PG and PG-13. PG-13 meant a higher level of intensity than was to be found in a film rated PG. Over the past years, parents have approved of this amplifying revision in the rating system.
On September 27, 1990, we announced two more revisions.
First, we introduced brief explanations of why a particular film received its R rating. Since, in the opinion of the Ratings Board, R rated films contain adult material, we believed it would be useful to parents to know a little more about that film's content before they allowed their children to accompany them. Sometime later we began applying the explanations in the PG, PG-13 and NC-17 categories as well. These explanations are available to parents at the theater (by telephone or at the box office), in certain media reviews and listings, and also made available on the MPAA's World Wide Web Home Page on the Internet. This internet address is http://www.mpaa.org.
Second, we changed the name of the X category to NC-17:NO ONE 17 AND UNDER ADMITTED. The X rating over the years appeared to have taken on a surly meaning in the minds of many people, a meaning that was never intended when we created the system. Therefore, we chose to reaffirm the original intent of the design we installed on November 1, 1968, in which this "adults only" category explicitly describes a movie that most parents would want to have barred to viewing by their children. That was and is our goal, nothing more, nothing less.
We have now trademarked "NC-17:NO ONE 17 AND UNDER ADMITTED" so that this rating symbol and the legend can be used only by those who submit their films for rating.
*NATO = National Association of Theater Owners, not that other organization- Nobu. _________________ "When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."- C.S. Lewis
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Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:23 pm
Fodder
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Nobu,
I was about to ask what NATO was doing with this. I remember when they created NC-17. Wasnt Henry and June the first movie with the rating? I didnt know that it was meant to replace X. The meaning for X has seemed to be changed to a "NR" for not yet rated. I think a lot of movies would take over an NC-17 rating. Which is considered poison in theatres. Or the fact that you can just release the DVD later with the scenes that you had to remove to make it to R. Thanks for posting that as usual. I would have just done a Google search. But somehow your replies are a little more informed.
Stealth_Duck and FDD,
Your both getting into an odd category and really a morality problem. Which is the question of whether a naked picture of Rei is legal to someone under 18 since they arent doing something percieved as "illegal". And really it is. Now again this is by use of morals. I know about the idea that animated or drawn materials are not considered child porn. This exists because of several sculptures and has been modified to fit the ever changing tastes of the XXX industry. Just because its legal doesnt make it ethical, moral or just right. But thanks to your freedoms as an american. You get to decide this. If your under 18 its something your parents are supposed to really work out with you. But in this day and age thats something that doesnt happen. And also doesnt take into account that people nearing the age of 18 feel like, and in a lot of ways, are adults. Mostly by way of being exposed to things earlier in life as the years go by.
In short their is no right answer to that. For myself as an adult to look at or for a naked picture of a teenager is illegal. And i dont do that because of how i was raised. For you as teenagers to do it. Is that its up to you. You will look and find it.
When laws get in the way of morality issues. It opens up a nasty can of worms.
Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:56 pm
John_Bono_Smithy_Satchmo
Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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Fodder: I really don't see it as a moral problem if someone is approximately the age of the depicted fictional character. In fact, I find it kind of strange if a 13-15 year old male doesn't find Asuka's budy ridiculously attractive. _________________ This space left intentionally blank.
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