Don't have an account yet? You can create one. As a registered user you have some advantages like theme manager, comments configuration and post comments with your name.
Toonami Infolink: Forums
Toonami Infolink :: View topic - Since when is S-CRY-ed so damn intense???
Toonami Turner Cartoon Network Thundercats Voltron Space Ghost Birdman Herculoids Dino Boy Galaxy Trio Mighty Mightor Moby Dick
Shazzan The
Impossibles Max Fleisher's Superman (a.k.a. Roulette) The Real Adventures of Johnny Quest Robotech Sailor Moon DragonBall Z Filmation Superman Batman Superfriends ReBoot
Ronin Warriors G-Force Powerpuff Girls Batman: The Animated Series Gundam Wing Tenchi Muyo! Universe in Tokyo Superman Outlaw Star Big O CardCaptors Mobile Suit Gundam O8th
MS Team DragonBall Batman Beyond Gundam 0080 Zoids: Zero Hamtaro Zoids: Chaotic Century Guardian Force G Gundam He-Man and the Masters of the Universe Transformers: Armada
G.I. Joe .hack//Sign Yu Yu Hakusho Rurouni Kenshin QuickTime .mov MOV AVI .avi MPEG .mpg Movies movie Videos Clips Sounds articles rants essays images files CNX inner circle
cn2 revolution Japan japanese multimedia saban funimation toei graz harmony gold mainframe Tyler Zogg TylerLToonami Turner Cartoon Network Thundercats Voltron Space
Ghost Birdman Herculoids Dino Boy Galaxy Trio Mighty Mightor Moby Dick
Shazzan The
Impossibles Max Fleisher's Superman (a.k.a. Roulette) The Real Adventures of Johnny Quest Robotech Sailor Moon DragonBall Z Filmation Superman Batman Superfriends
ReBoot
Ronin Warriors G-Force Powerpuff Girls Batman: The Animated Series Gundam Wing Tenchi Muyo! Universe in Tokyo Superman Outlaw Star Big O CardCaptors Mobile Suit Gundam
O8th
MS Team DragonBall Batman Beyond Gundam 0080 Zoids: Zero Hamtaro Zoids: Chaotic Century Guardian Force G Gundam He-Man and the Masters of the Universe Transformers:
Armada
G.I. Joe .hack//Sign Yu Yu Hakusho Rurouni Kenshin QuickTime .mov MOV AVI .avi MPEG .mpg Movies movie Videos Clips Sounds articles rants essays images files CNX inner
circle
cn2 revolution Japan japanese multimedia saban funimation toei graz harmony gold mainframe Tyler Zogg TylerL
When I was watching the series I realized conomy kept calling kazuma kazacoon can does anyone know what kazacoon mean?
She's probably saying, "Kaza-kun", which is a Japanese honorific for familiar, informal address towards males.
...I don't normally endorse the idea of using honorifics in dubs because of this reason. Most English-language viewers (non-anime fanatics) have no idea what the different honorifics mean and their relationship to each other. _________________ "When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."- C.S. Lewis
"Superman can't be emo. He can't cut himself."-CP
Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:20 pm
JKyle
Joined: Jan 21, 2003
Post subject:
Well I guess that's why they played it more like a nickname. It's better then her calling him Mister Kazu or Sir Kazu... then again, Sir Kazu sounds alright and would avoid this kind of discussion.
If you know what they changed for the anime, you'd agree most of the changes were for the better. [check wikipedia for the list of changes]
I really liked s-CRY-ed at first but the ending episodes kind of killed the series for me with the whole pointless battle just to see who's stronger between Kazuma and Ryoho. It felt like DBZ and I just didn't like it and was very disappointed.
Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:43 pm
JKyle
Joined: Jan 21, 2003
Post subject:
reaper wrote:
I really liked s-CRY-ed at first but the ending episodes kind of killed the series for me with the whole pointless battle just to see who's stronger between Kazuma and Ryoho. It felt like DBZ and I just didn't like it and was very disappointed.
DBZ and it's power up stall-a-thons couldn't shine the shoes of the raw emotion of the Kazuma/Ryuho final fight. At what point in DBZ (maybe DB) does anyone run out of powers and continue to wail on their opponent? _________________ JKyle.com (Because bad things happen to good people) Cast in the Name of God
Ye Not Guilty
Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:01 pm
reaper
Joined: Jul 16, 2005
Post subject:
JKyle wrote:
reaper wrote:
I really liked s-CRY-ed at first but the ending episodes kind of killed the series for me with the whole pointless battle just to see who's stronger between Kazuma and Ryoho. It felt like DBZ and I just didn't like it and was very disappointed.
DBZ and it's power up stall-a-thons couldn't shine the shoes of the raw emotion of the Kazuma/Ryuho final fight. At what point in DBZ (maybe DB) does anyone run out of powers and continue to wail on their opponent?
Well, let's see, there was that final fight between the Z team and Vegeta in the beginning where barely anyone could stand. However, it doesn't really matter though because my problem with s-CRY-ed is that the fighting was pointless. There may have been emotion but it still shared the same style of fighting that DBZ's plot lived on.
Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:59 pm
JKyle
Joined: Jan 21, 2003
Post subject:
reaper wrote:
JKyle wrote:
reaper wrote:
I really liked s-CRY-ed at first but the ending episodes kind of killed the series for me with the whole pointless battle just to see who's stronger between Kazuma and Ryoho. It felt like DBZ and I just didn't like it and was very disappointed.
DBZ and it's power up stall-a-thons couldn't shine the shoes of the raw emotion of the Kazuma/Ryuho final fight. At what point in DBZ (maybe DB) does anyone run out of powers and continue to wail on their opponent?
Well, let's see, there was that final fight between the Z team and Vegeta in the beginning where barely anyone could stand. However, it doesn't really matter though because my problem with s-CRY-ed is that the fighting was pointless. There may have been emotion but it still shared the same style of fighting that DBZ's plot lived on.
The styles of fighting were completely different. If there was any ki blasts God I'm missing them. Very very few recycled animations.
As for the first Vegeta fight... uh... where is the 8 on 2 dynamic? I guess an argument can be made for the altered gray hairs as the Saibamen, but there are no sacrificial lambs in any of the battles in s-CRY-ed (a tradition proudly displayed in Dragonball AND Dragon Ball Z [i.e. former villain Yamcha loses to Tien, next year rival Krillin loses to Piccolo, Piccolo/Tien/Chao Tzu lose to Nappa]) Not really feeling that analogy.
Then there is the whole matter of all that narration thrown at you explaining Kazuma's nature before, during, and after his meeting with Ryuho. Pointless is the fight Richie has with the guy in the alley on that episode of Highlander where he kills him because they're both late and in a bad mood. The final fight in s-CRY-ed is about finally paying off the tension between the always interrupted protagonists as well as showing how far Kazuma's come.
Now keep this in mind before you reply defending your right to an opinion, I'm not questioning the validity of your opinion, only the way you've chosen to express it. If you don't like the show I understand. But the complaints thus far in the thread are lacking in merit. _________________ JKyle.com (Because bad things happen to good people) Cast in the Name of God
Ye Not Guilty
Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:34 pm
reaper
Joined: Jul 16, 2005
Post subject:
JKyle wrote:
reaper wrote:
JKyle wrote:
reaper wrote:
I really liked s-CRY-ed at first but the ending episodes kind of killed the series for me with the whole pointless battle just to see who's stronger between Kazuma and Ryoho. It felt like DBZ and I just didn't like it and was very disappointed.
DBZ and it's power up stall-a-thons couldn't shine the shoes of the raw emotion of the Kazuma/Ryuho final fight. At what point in DBZ (maybe DB) does anyone run out of powers and continue to wail on their opponent?
Well, let's see, there was that final fight between the Z team and Vegeta in the beginning where barely anyone could stand. However, it doesn't really matter though because my problem with s-CRY-ed is that the fighting was pointless. There may have been emotion but it still shared the same style of fighting that DBZ's plot lived on.
The styles of fighting were completely different. If there was any ki blasts God I'm missing them. Very very few recycled animations.
As for the first Vegeta fight... uh... where is the 8 on 2 dynamic? I guess an argument can be made for the altered gray hairs as the Saibamen, but there are no sacrificial lambs in any of the battles in s-CRY-ed (a tradition proudly displayed in Dragonball AND Dragon Ball Z [i.e. former villain Yamcha loses to Tien, next year rival Krillin loses to Piccolo, Piccolo/Tien/Chao Tzu lose to Nappa]) Not really feeling that analogy.
Then there is the whole matter of all that narration thrown at you explaining Kazuma's nature before, during, and after his meeting with Ryuho. Pointless is the fight Richie has with the guy in the alley on that episode of Highlander where he kills him because they're both late and in a bad mood. The final fight in s-CRY-ed is about finally paying off the tension between the always interrupted protagonists as well as showing how far Kazuma's come.
Now keep this in mind before you reply defending your right to an opinion, I'm not questioning the validity of your opinion, only the way you've chosen to express it. If you don't like the show I understand. But the complaints thus far in the thread are lacking in merit.
It may seem to you that my argument has no merit, but in fact it does, or at least, it does according to what I think about fighting. I believe that Kazuma and Ryuho were rather selfish for damn near killing each other. This is because they did it essentially to prove who is the baddest. They didn't think about staying safe for the one's they loved or about the protection of the island from the mainland which had become their responsibility. They just had to know who was the best. Now, don't get me wrong, a fight such as this wouldn't normally ruin a show for me because there are plenty of anime's out there such as DBZ and Yu Yu Hakusho, which either I like or used to like that had several fights like these. Some examples: Goku vs. Majin Vegeta, any fight with Cell, and the fight between Toguro and Yusuke. Both of these are similar to the final fight in s-CRY-ed in that they are all essentially battles to see who is the strongest. All of these fights show things such as how the protagonists and antagonist have progressed throughout the story. The only difference is that with Goku, he held back so that Vegeta would feel better about himself because Goku felt bad for Vegeta because of strongly he felt about being the best. What makes me dislike the final fight in s-CRY-ed more though is the fact that it was the ending note of the series, and I was very disappointed because the mainland had not given up it's conquering of the island and since Ryuho and Kazuma were both pretty much incapacitated, that meant the island is defenseless. Now you keep in mind that I only defend my opinion becuase you pretty much said that I was full of shit in a nice way. Please, if your gonna get so heated up about something so insignificant, at least be nice about it.
Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:06 pm
JKyle
Joined: Jan 21, 2003
Post subject:
Look in the Naruto thread if you want to see what it's like when I'm not nice junior. I'm not trying to antagonize you.
Ryuho and Kazuma heal incredibly quick, and neither was out to kill each other, so I doubt the mainland swooped in and conquered the moment they were done fighting.
On the other points... well you didn't make any. You ignored my counterpoints and just restated yours. That's called... (dan da na NA!) Circular Reasoning.
If I wanted to tell you that you're full of shit, I'd tell you that you're full of shit. Stop whining. _________________ JKyle.com (Because bad things happen to good people) Cast in the Name of God
Ye Not Guilty
Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:15 pm
reaper
Joined: Jul 16, 2005
Post subject:
JKyle wrote:
Look in the Naruto thread if you want to see what it's like when I'm not nice junior. I'm not trying to antagonize you.
Ryuho and Kazuma heal incredibly quick, and neither was out to kill each other, so I doubt the mainland swooped in and conquered the moment they were done fighting.
On the other points... well you didn't make any. You ignored my counterpoints and just restated yours. That's called... (dan da na NA!) Circular Reasoning.
If I wanted to tell you that you're full of shit, I'd tell you that you're full of shit. Stop whining.
I'm not really antagonized or am I whining. I also ignored your counterpoints because they didn't counter anything I said at all. For example what in the hell does ki blasts have to do with anything at all? We were arguing about (or at least I thought we were) on how the battle was pointless not how it was fought. Your "counterpoint" of sacrificial lambs also doesn't counter my points. The only real counterpoint you had was the Highlander one which only showed an example of a pointless battle with a fatalityI restated my points because they seemed to be unclear to you the first time. In fact they apparently are still unclear. You know what humor me, if you can explain to me what my argument was to begin with and how your counterpoints explained how the battle wasn't pointless then I'll shut the hell up and stop posting in this damn topic. I didn't come here to argue in a fashion that can cause a flame war. (no, I'm not saying your flaming me or that your insulting me but you are apparently riled up and this argument will probably degenerate into a flame war soon and those aren't any fun)
Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:35 pm
JKyle
Joined: Jan 21, 2003
Post subject:
Since you feel COMPELLED to write a short essay everytime I post I guess this warrants a reply. This IS my last post in this thread addressing you because you're not really reading my posts beyond getting enough to repeat my words and add that I'm wrong.
reaper wrote:
I'm not really antagonized or am I whining.
I said your points don't make sense. You respond by saying I'm "basically saying you're full of shit." I said your points were not up to par. I SHOULD have said you were full of shit because at least I'd then felt like I earned this attention.
Also, you ARE full of shit of this next one.
Just to clarify.
reaper wrote:
I also ignored your counterpoints because they didn't counter anything I said at all.
You said "it's the same type of fighting." I gave a post where I presented a case that they wren't using the same type of fighting. So when you say something (to let's say, MAKE A POINT) and I present a case stating otherwise... that's NOT a counterpoint?
Truly art thou my greater in the art of the English language sir.
reaper wrote:
For example what in the hell does ki blasts have to do with anything at all? We were arguing about (or at least I thought we were) on how the battle was pointless not how it was fought. Your "counterpoint" of sacrificial lambs also doesn't counter my points. The only real counterpoint you had was the Highlander one which only showed an example of a pointless battle with a fatalityI restated my points because they seemed to be unclear to you the first time.
The ki blasts would be part of my "hey those fights aren't alike at all! When you use facts... to back up a statement... POINT. But then again I didn't make any points according to you.
reaper wrote:
In fact they apparently are still unclear.
You know what humor me, if you can explain to me what my argument was to begin with and how your counterpoints explained how the battle wasn't pointless then I'll shut the hell up and stop posting in this damn topic.
reaper wrote:
my problem with s-CRY-ed is that the fighting was pointless. There may have been emotion but it still shared the same style of fighting that DBZ's plot lived on.
JKyle wrote:
The final fight in s-CRY-ed is about finally paying off the tension between the always interrupted protagonists as well as showing how far Kazuma's come.
That would appear to be a reason to fight. Not a pointless fight.
AND I could get into how EVERY fight in Dragonball THROUGH GT had a point (Roshi teachers Goku there's always something better, Saving the world from Cell/Vegeta/Buu, defeating Frieza to bring back Yamcha/Tien/Chao Tzu) but you likely wouldn't listen to me there either. See the fights in DBZ begin to last FORVER and therefore certainly feel pointless but Toriyama gives an excuse anyway.
s-CRY-ed's fights between the protagonists isn't as concrete as the island's struggle against the stratification of the social classes but Kazuma AND Ryuho are both unquestionably creatures of PRIDE who lack the maturity of Champloo's Jean and Mugen and therefore MUST know who's the best.
The final fight of the series is a culmination of their rivalry as an extension of some of the themes of the theories.
All times are GMT - 5 Hours Goto page Previous1, 2
Page 2 of 2
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
