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I've seen the entire run of CB a couple of times and just saw balled of fallen angels last night and it got me wondering again about Spike's past.
From what i understand, he was some kind of high ranking man in the Red Dragon sindicate. Spike at some point took Vicious under his wing and trained/brought him up. After a bad hit operation, he was badly wounded and Julia found him and brought him back to good health. Spike fell in love with her and promised to leave the sindicate and go away with her. Vicious found out about this and felt betrayed. He blackmailed Julia and told her if she ever saw Spike again, he'd kill(her/Spike/both of them?) When Spike went to meet Julia, she wasn't there and he's been searching for her ever since.
This is what ive put together from seeing it in AS. I know it probably explains it more in the unedited versions(which i plan to get at some point). If you know different tell me, becuse I really want to have a good understanding of this.
Mon Aug 18, 2003 2:39 pm
Beefy
Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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You've pretty much got it. From what I remember Julia was Vicious's lover, but then she fell in love with Spike. So not only is Vicious pissed off because Spike deserted the syndicate, Spike also stole his lover. No wonder Spike and Vicious hate each other so much.
Spike decided to leave the syndicate and take Julia with him. However, you can't just quit the syndicate because you know too much and they don't want you spilling all their dirty secrets. The only way to get out is death. This is why Spike says he already died once. _________________ "Robots don't say 'ye'."
"I'll show ye!"
Mon Aug 18, 2003 6:27 pm
Zechs
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
Post subject: Re: understanding spike's past
wild_knight wrote:
This is what ive put together from seeing it in AS. I know it probably explains it more in the unedited versions(which i plan to get at some point). If you know different tell me, becuse I really want to have a good understanding of this.
Nah, they took out almost nothing in terms of plot from the editing. Excess Blood, a few swears here and there but that's it. CN made sure none of the story was lost on the cuts. _________________ Bang.
Mon Aug 18, 2003 7:37 pm
Daikun
Joined: Nov 02, 2002
Post subject: Re: understanding spike's past
wild_knight wrote:
This is what ive put together from seeing it in AS. I know it probably explains it more in the unedited versions(which i plan to get at some point).
No. CN didn't cut anything out of Cowboy Bebop plot-wise. The only edits they made were for language (the "S" word and "God"), some-but-not-all blood, nudity, and bullets to the head (I don't understand why, since they shot up all other body parts). _________________ Toonami visual schedule - UPDATED AUGUST 2, 2015
Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:41 pm
Spookmonkey
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
Post subject: Re: understanding spike's past
Daikun wrote:
wild_knight wrote:
This is what ive put together from seeing it in AS. I know it probably explains it more in the unedited versions(which i plan to get at some point).
No. CN didn't cut anything out of Cowboy Bebop plot-wise. The only edits they made were for language (the "S" word and "God"), some-but-not-all blood, nudity, and bullets to the head (I don't understand why, since they shot up all other body parts).
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you got it, in some scenes you see vicious and julia together so that says it.
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