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counterparadox

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I hvae two topics to discuss here.

First, while wandering about the mall yesterday for quite some time, I noticed MULTIPLE stores with Manga displays. Like, stores are now pimping the fact that they are selling manga. It's to the point where it's getting more popular than American comics. That's both good (anime is becomming mainstream and is no longer something to be laughed at about, but instead just an intrest like watching sports or movies of liking rock music) and bad (bigger than American comics? Not good. Equal would be good. Both popular would be good. More popular? Not good.)



Secondly, I was able to borrow the first 2 volumes of the Hellsing Manga. Read through them straight. They were quite thoroughly awesome and I need more to live. But there is no more in english and that makes me pissed.
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PostSun May 23, 2004 6:52 pm
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I've been noticing the same thing. For about the last year and a half, every book sotre I've been in has at least had a token Manga section (often several shelves, well stocked, and up to date).
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I was at a Walden Books that had, literally, two whole bookcases of Manga, ond only a few Spiderman graphic novels and nothing else American. I wanted Watchmen, damnit, and had to go elsewhere!
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Me and some friends were talking about this. Anime is going through a post-punk phase where the underground is slowly coming into the mainstream. Having anime more available and cheaper is good, yet at the same time they lower prices they seem to cheapen the appeal. Any anime you got a hold of in the old days was like a treasured gem and searching was half the fun. Now you're starting to see stores like Wal-Mart stocking Kenshin and Macross boxsets. I can walk in school with anime related clothing and actually have people know where it comes from and be an even bigger fan than I am. The former "cult feeling" is dwindling and that makes me sad.

As for the american comics issue I cant comment, because outside of a few issues of DC series I purchased many years ago and Jhonen Vasquez stuff I'm not a huge fan. I hope that the good qualities of both styles eventually fuse and become a whole new breed of art and storytelling.
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I never got into comic books. Until Tokyo Mew Mew, I haddn't even finished a manga series. Granted, that's because they havn't finished publication. In any case I was at the point I'd call my-self an anime fan for better than a year before I even purchased my first manga. Then it was only because it came with a DVD in a gift box. It took me several more months to take it off the shelf and actually read it. I do think that some anime's are losing their appeal since everyone knows what it is, but I think that being ahead of the curve is what seperates an anime geek or otaku, from your run of the mill fan.
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I was reading Naruto Manga the other day, and my moron friend jsut kept thinking it was Hentai cause that's all he knows of in Japanese animation. So I think the "cult feeling" is still good for a while at least, as long as little middleschoolers think they're anime fans cause they saw a couple of episodes of Cowboy Bebop on adult swin before their bed time.
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By the by, this is topic number 1500 on this board. Just thought that might interest a few people.
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counterparadox wrote:
By the by, this is topic number 1500 on this board. Just thought that might interest a few people.


well in that case...

i'll admit, i have noticed a surge in stores carrying manga over the last six months or so, but i never really cared for comics before or now...i suppose the exposure is a good thing, but i'm rather indifferent about it either way...
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For me that "cult" feeling is there because I tend to read/watch alot of it before it makes it to the US. So until more people start downloading anime/manga around here that cult feeling will be there for me I guess.
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The whole thing reeks of what comics went through between 1990 and 1995. Wide spread acceptance and exposure and then BAM! they get dropped like a rock.

Either stores will stop carrying manga or the ammount they carrry will decrease drasticly, just you wait.
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The whole thing reeks of what comics went through between 1990 and 1995. Wide spread acceptance and exposure and then BAM! they get dropped like a rock.

Either stores will stop carrying manga or the ammount they carrry will decrease drasticly, just you wait.

Yes, that happens every few years.
One characteristic in manga's favor is that it's marketed primarily to people who wouldn't ordinarily buy comic books. So the "market oversaturation" factor will take a little longer to develop, although ADV's and Tokyopop's plans to pump out about 400-500 books annually (between the two companies) isn't helping matters. Razz
One benefit of the impending implosion is that most of the super-extra-crappy manga titles will die off quickly due to readers' tastes and lack of shelf space. Unfortunately, this will also kill off the smaller publishers (i.e. Ironcat) and more specialized titles (i.e. Firefighter Daigo of M Company) that can't bear the pressure of a collapsing market.

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Two things. Everyone's noticed the Tokyopop commercials by now and I think that's major proof of the market growth. Second I noticed that my library now stocks Manga and Graphic novels, which is sweet because I'll be volenteering there all summer.
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PErsonally I find the Tokyopop commercials to be proof towards what I said. They really are badly done to boot.
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Yeah, those commercials really are kinda bad.
And I agree with Nob. While I don't think this manga craze will ever go away completely. It will just die down, and a few of the smaller companies with it. I can't see TP and ADV manga just going away.
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I didn't say that they will die away completely, I just said they'd follow the path comics took in the early 90's. They're still around today aren't they?
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